>>> FOR OUR FINAL REPORT
TONIGHT, WE EXPLORED THE PRICE
TAG OF A COLLEGE EDUCATION IN
THE UNITED STATES.
RISING DEBTS, LOW WAGING AND
INCREASING LIVINGS EXPENSES ARE
FORCING STUDENTS TO SACRIFICE
THE MOST BASIC NECESSITY, FOOD.
IT IS AN INCREDIBLE SITUATION
AND ACCORDING TO A NEW REPORT BY
THE U.S. GOVERNMENT
ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE, IT/3 OF E
ENOUGH TO EAT.
SARAH RABB SEES THIS IN HER
CLASSROOM EVERY DAY.
SHE'S ALSO PAYING THE PRICE AND
A PROFESSOR OF HIGHER EDUCATION
POLICY AT TEMPLE UNIVERSITY IN
PHILADELPHIA.
SHE SPOKE TO THIS WOMAN AS PART
OF OUR ONGOING INITIATIVE WHICH
LOOKS AT POVERTY, JOBS AND
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IN AMERICA
CALLED "CHASING THE DREAM."
>> ARE PEOPLE HAVING TO MAKE THE
CHOICE BETWEEN EATING AND
CONTINUING WITH SCHOOL?
>> THEY ABSOLUTELY ARE.
THERE'S REALLY NO QUESTION.
WE'VE DONE SO MANY INTERVIEWS
AND SO HAVE MY COLLEAGUES OVER
THE MANY YEARS NOW AND WE'VE
SEEN STUDENTS MAKE THOSE CHOICES
ALL THE TIME.
I WILL SEE STUDENTS WHO WILL
SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M SO SHORT ONMY
BOOKS THIS SEMESTER, IT MEANS
I'M GOING TO MISS RENT PAYMENTS.
I MEAN, WE ESTIMATE THAT ALMOST
1 IN 10 OF AMERICAN COLLEGE
STUDENTS HAVE BEEN HOMELESS IN
THE LAST YEAR.
THIS IS VERY SERIOUS AND VERY
COMMON.
IT CAN MEAN THAT A STUDENT, FOR
EXAMPLE, HAS A MEDICAL NEED AND
THEREFORE DOES NOT HAVE
GROCERIES FOR THE MONTH.
THERE ARE SO MANY COMPETING
PRESSURES FACING THESE STUDENTS
EVERY DAY, SOME OF WHICH, YOU
KNOW ORDINARY AMERICANS ARE ALSO
VERY ACQUAINTED WITH, BUT IT
MEANS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE
TO GIVE UP ON THEIR EDUCATION.
AND LEAVING IT PARTLY
UNFINISHED, WHERE THEY LEAVE IN
DEBT WITH NO DEGREE IS REALLY
CONSEQUENTIAL.
>> THIS GETS ALMOST PERSONAL FOR
YOU.
I REMEMBER YOU TELLING SOMEONE
ABOUT ONE OF YOUR OWN STUDENTS
REACHING OUT TO YOU AND TELLING
YOU WHAT SHE CONSIDERED A
>> YEAH, I MEAN, I HAVE HAD
STUDENTS FOR A LONG TIME WHO
HAVE HAD THESE CHALLENGES, BUT I
WAS ESPECIALLY TAKEN WHEN I
FIRST ARRIVED AT TEMPLE
UNIVERSITY AND AN UNDERGRADUATE
CAME WALKING INTO MY OFFICE.
I THOUGHT SHE WAS THERE TO ASKF.
I MEAN, SHE LOOKED, YOU KNOW,
VERY SORT OF PUT TOGETHER.
A VERY BRIGHT SCIENCE MAJOR AND
SHE SAID TO ME, I REALLY NEED T.
AND I SAID, WHAT DO YOU NEED TO?
IT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VEM.
SHE SAID, I HEAR YOU KNOW THAT
YOU KNOW KNOW, THAT YOU
UNDERSTAND THERE ARE THINGS
GOING ON THAT WE DON'T TALK
ABOUT.
TO TELL ME?L, WHAT DO YOU NEED
AND SHE SAID, I DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH MONEY FOR FOOD.
AND SHE SAID, AND I'M SO
EMBARRASSED TO SAY THIS, BUT
I'VE ACTUALLY STARTED
SHOPLIFTING AT THE LOCAL GROCERY
STORE SO THAT I CAN GET ENOUGHT.
AND SHE SAID, AND I WAS RECENTLY
CAUGHT, AND THAT MEANS I CAN'TD.
SO SHE SAID, SO I DON'T KNOW
WHERE TO GET FOOD.
AND TO BE REALLY FRANK WITH YOUE
WAS A WHITE WOMAN WHO LOOKED
VERY MIDDLE-CLASS, AND, IN FACT,
IS MIDDLE-CLASS.
SHE IS THE CHILD OF PEOPLE WHO
VALUE EDUCATION, WHO HAVE WORKED
VERY HARD FOR PAY FOR COLLEGE
BUT HAVE STRUGGLED ECONOMICALLY.
AS THEY HELPED HER GO THROUGH
COLLEGE, THEY STARTED TO RUN OU.
SHE'S TOO RICH TO GET FINANCIAL
AID AND TOO POOR TO BE ABLE TO
ACTUALLY AFFORD COLLEGE, AND SO
SHE REALLY FOUND HERSELF WITHOUT
ENOUGH TO EAT AND VERY FEW
OPTIONS.
GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT SEEMS TO BE
THAT WE DO HAVE, RIGHT?E DATA
THERE IS A GAP IN OUR
PERCEPTIONS OF WHO MIGHT BE
IMPACTED BY THIS AND WHO
ACTUALLY IS IMPACTED.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
I MEAN, WE DO TEND TO THINK COLE
STUDENTS WHEN WE THINK ABOUT
THIS ISSUE AND WHEN WE THINK
ABOUT FINANCIAL AID GENERALLY.
THAT IS IMPORTANT.
TODAY'S PELL GRANT RECIPIENTS
ARE ABSOLUTELY BEING LEFT SHORT
IN WAYS THAT ARE UNCONSCIONABLE,
TOO, AND IT'S THIS MIDDLE CLASS
THAT ALMOST 50% OF AMERICANS
BELIEVE THEY'RE A PART OF, BUT
WELL.IDDLE CLASS IS NOT DOING
THEY'RE STRAPPED.
THEY'RE FACING A LOT OF ECONOMI.
WORK IS NOT PAYING THE WAY THAT
THEY WOULD LIKE IT TO AND
COLLEGE PRICES ARE OFTEN BEYOND
REACH, AND SO THEY MIGHT THINK
THAT THEY HAVE IT TOGETHER AND
THEY GET TO COLLEGE AND THEN,
AGAIN, THEY RUN SHORT AND THEY
ARE MYSTIFIED AND, FRANKLY, A
BIT STIGMATIZED, YOU KNOW, WHEN
ACCESSING THIS HELP.OR OR
>> GIVE ME A SCALE OF THE
PROBLEM.
HOW SIGNIFICANT IS FOOD SECURITY
FOR COLLEGE STUDENTS ACROSS THE?
>> WELL, THE FIRST THING, AND
THE GAO DOES EMPHASIZE THIS, WE
DON'T ACTUALLY REALLY KNOW AT A
NATIONAL LEVEL BECAUSE THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS NEVER
COLLECTED DATA ON THIS IN ANY
SYSTEMATIC WAY.
IN FACT, COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES ARE ALSO NOT
THIS.RED TO COLLECT DATA ON
FROM SURVEYS THAT WE'VE DONE.
ONE COLLEGE AT A TIME ACROSS TH.
AND MYSELF AND MY TEAM AS WELL
AS OTHER RESEARCHERS AROUND THE
COUNTRY HAVE AMASSED A LARGE
NUMBER OF COLLEGES OVER TIME IN
MOST STATES WHERE WE HAVE DONE
THESE SURVEYS AND THE RESULTS
SEEM TO SUGGEST THAT AROUND 40
TO MAYBE EVEN 50% OF THE
NATION'S COLLEGE STUDENTS ARE
THEY'RE IN SCHOOL.CURITY WHILE
>> OUR GENERAL DEFINITION OF WHO
IS A COLLEGE STUDENT IN AMERICA
SEEMS TO BE COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT, AT LEAST OUR
PERCEPTION OF IT VERSUS WHAT THE
REALITY IS.
>> THERE IS A BIG DISJUNCTURE.
WE CONTINUE TO THINK OF COLLEGEM
REASONABLY WEALTHY FAMILIES WHO
VALUE EDUCATION AND HAVE SENT
THEIR CHILDREN OFF TO COLLEGE
WITH SAVINGS IN THE BANK, SENT
THEM TO LIVE IN RESIDENCE HALLS
AND TO FOCUS ON THIS SCHOOLING,
PURSUE ONE OR TWO MAJORS, ATTEND
LECTURES AND EXTRACURRICULAR
EVENTS AND HAVE A BASICALLY GOO.
ONLY 13% OF AMERICAN
UNDERGRADUATES THESE DAYS LIVE
ON A COLLEGE CAMPUS.
1 IN IN 4 HAS A CHILD.
ALMOST -- MORE THAN 1/3,
ACTUALLY, ARE OVER THE AGE OF
THEY DON'T LOOK THE WAY WE THINE
SUPPORT WE POPULARLY THINK THEY.
>> IF 1/3 OF STUDENTS ARE GOING?
>> THESE THINGS ARE NOT ENTIREL.
THE PRICE OF TUITION RISING IS
BEING DRIVEN PRIMARILY BECAUSE
STATES HAVE CHANGED WHAT THE
THEY'RE PAYING FOR HIGHER ED.
SO IN THE PAST, IF LET'S SAY
COLLEGE COST $1, A STATE MIGHT
SAY TO A STUDENT, WE'LL PUT IN
75 CENTS, YOU'LL PAY 25 CENTS
AND OVER TIME THE STATE HAS
CENTS, YOU PAY 50.L PAY 50
WE'LL PAY A QUARTER, YOU PAY 75,
BUT THE FOOD ISSUE IS REALLY INE
INCREASE IN LIVING COSTS IN THI.
SO THE FACT IS, YOU KNOW, AS
HOUSING HAS GOTTEN MORE
EXPENSIVE, IT'S CREATED OTHERPR.
>> SO HOW DO SCHOOLS DEAL WITH
THIS IDEA OF KIDS WHO ARE IN
THEIR CLASSROOMS -- NOT EVEN
KIDS, ADULTS IN THEIR
CLASSROOMS, THERE I AM FALLING
BACK INTO THAT TRAP, WHO CAN'TF.
>> WHAT HAS CHANGED OVER TIME IS
THAT WE HAVE DRAWN MORE
ATTENTION TO THE STRUCTURAL
FACTORS THAT ARE CREATING THIS
PROBLEM AT SUCH A LARGE NUMBER
OF COLLEGES THAT NO ONE COLLEGE
COULD BE DOING SOMETHING WRONG
THAT WOULD BE CAUSING THIS
THEMSELVES.
AND AS THAT'S HAPPENED, IT'S
ENABLED SOME COLLEGES TO BE ABL.
SO WE SEE A GROWING NUMBER OF
CAMPUS FOOD PANTRIES.
THAT'S AT LEAST A CHARITABLE
IMPULSE THAT'S BEING REALIZED.
WE'RE SEEING A GROWING NUMBER,
ESPECIALLY AT COMMUNITY
COLLEGES THAT ARE STARTING TO
HELP STUDENTS ACCESS S.N.A.P.
PROGRAM, WHICH IS FOOD STAMPS
WE'RE SEEING SOME THAT ARE
TRYING OUT PROGRAMS
LIKE FOOD SCHOLARSHIPS.
WE'RE ALSO SEEING SOME THAT
ARE SUBSIDIZING THOSE
BIGGER EXPENSES LIKE HOUSING.
ONE OF THE REASONS PEOPLE
DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR FOOD IS
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PAY THEIR
RENT.
RENT.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, MY TEAM'S BEEN
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, MY TEAM'S BEEN
WORKING WITH A COUPLE HOUSING
AUTHORITIES IN THIS COUNTRY THAT
AUTHORITIES IN THIS COUNTRY THAT
ARE WORKING TO OFFER MORE
ARE WORKING TO OFFER MORE
ARE WORKING TO OFFER MORE
SUPPORT TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE
SUPPORT TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE
IN PUBLIC HOUSING WHILE THEY'RE
IN COLLEGE SO THAT THEY CAN
ACTUALLY REALLY LIVE AND EAT AND
GO TO COLLEGE AND THEN, FRANKLY,
GET OUT OF PUBLIC HOUSING,
BECOME ECONOMICALLY
SELF-SUFFICIENT.
>> BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT
EATING, THEY'RE NOT STUDYING
WELL, THEY'RE NOT PERFORMING
GRADUATE.Y'RE NOT LIKELY TO
>> THEY'RE NOT.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS SUCH COMMON
SENSE.
THERE ISN'T A TEACHER IN THISCOT
TEACHER HASN'T EATEN THEY'RE
GOING TO BE ACTIVE AND ENGAGE I.
WE HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE
THAT A 25-YEAR-OLD OR AN
18-YEAR-OLD WOULD BE ANY
DIFFERENT.
>> SO YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE
NOW. LOOKING AT THIS FOR YEARS
YOU HAD A BOOK OUT A FEW YEARS
AGO.
YOU WERE FOLLOWING 3,000
DIFFERENT STUDENTS.
I WANT TO LOOK AT THE LONGER ARC
HERE.
WORSE?INGS GETTING BETTER OR
>> PART OF THE REASON THAT IT'S
REALLY HARD TO ME TO SAY IS WE
WERE NOT TRACKING THESE ISSUES
IN THIS WAY FOR A LONG PERIOD OF
TIME.
I FOLLOWED A COHORT OF AT LEAST
3,000 STUDENTS.
WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE FIRST
SEMESTER OF COLLEGE CAN BE VERY
DIFFERENT THAN THE THIRD OR
FOURTH OR FIFTH SEMESTERS.
THERE IS A LOT OF VOLATILITY AND
FLUCTUATION.WE WORSE OFF IN 201E
WERE IN SAY, 2017, OR 2012 OR IN
1982?
WE DON'T KNOW.
BECAUSE THESE ISSUES WERE NOT
BEING EXAMINED.
BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING NOW, I
THINK OVER TIME WE'RE GOING TO
BE ABLE TO SAY, HOPEFULLY
WHETHER THINGS ARE GETTING
BETTER OR WORSE, BUT WHAT I CAN
TELL YOU IS THAT IT IS CLEAR
THAT HIGHER EDUCATION IS GETTING
IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR LESS
RESOURCES PER STUDENT THAN IT
EVER HAS.
WE HAVE MORE STUDENTS FROM
FAMILIES WITH SIGNIFICANT
ECONOMIC NEEDS AND WE HAVE
STUDENTS WHO ARE HAVING A HARDER
TIME GETTING WORK THAT PAYS
DURING COLLEGE AND ENOUGH ACCESS
TO FINANCIAL AID TO MAKE UP FOR
THOSE FINANCIAL NEEDS.
SO THE CRISIS REALLY, FRANKLY,
SHOULD STILL BE HERE.
>> IF IT'S UNDERRESOURCED LIKE
THIS, IS THAT DRIVING PART OF
WHAT THIS STUDENT LOAN DEBT SIZE
HAS BALLOONED TO?
GIVE US SOME PERSPECTIVE HOW BIG
THAT IS NOW.
>> YOU KNOW, THE STUDENT LOAN
DEBT OVERALL SIZE MATTERS TO ME
A LITTLE BIT LESS, FRANKLY, THAN
THE NUMBER OF BORROWERS WHO ARE
UNABLE TO REPAY THEIR LOANS.
AND THOSE PEOPLE REALLY
INTERESTINGLY ARE NOT THE ONES
WHO HAVE THE BIG DEBT.
NOT WHAT WE WOULD CALL BIG.
THEY HAVE LIKE $5,000 OF DEBT.
THE PROBLEM IS THEY ONLY GOT
LIKE A YEAR OF COLLEGE
EDUCATION.
SO THESE ARE HIGH SCHOOL
GRADUATES WALKING AROUND WITH
THE FEELING OF HAVING DROPPED
OUT OF COLLEGE AND NOW OWING
LOANS.
THEY HAVE NO ECONOMIC ABILITY TO
MANY OF THEM ARE TAKING LOANS
THEY SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAD TO
TAKE.
THEY WERE PELL GRANT RECIPIENTS
IN COLLEGE, WHICH WHEN THAT
PROGRAM BEGAN MEANT THAT NOBODY
SHOULD TAKE A LOAN.
WE NEVER INTENDED FOR PEOPLE WHO
WERE LOW-INCOME WHEN THEY COME
TO COLLEGE TO HAVE TO TAKE DEBT.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GET A
GRANT.
THE PELL PROGRAM NOW COVERS
AND UNIVERSITIES' TOTAL COSTS.
EVERYONE STARTED OUT.HAN WHEN
>> EXACTLY.
IT'S A MAJOR DECLINE.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO COVER 100%.W.
COLLEGE, THEY'VE GOT TO TAKE ON
THE DEBT.
BUT THEIR CHANCES OF FINISHING
ARE NOT THAT HIGH.
SO THEY COME OUT WITH DEBT AND
NO DEGREE.
AND NOW THEY'RE IN POTENTIALLY
AN EVEN WORSE SITUATION THAN
THEY WERE IN THE FIRST PLACE
BEFORE THEY WENT TO COLLEGE.
>> SOMEBODY'S GOING TO SAY,
LOOK, WHAT ABOUT WORK STUDY?
I HAD TO GO TO SCHOOL AND GET A
JOB, WORK 15, 20 HOURS A WEEK TO
QUALIFY FOR BENEFITS.
>> THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT WORK STUDY
IN THIS COUNTRY IS SO INCREDIBLY
UNDERFUNDED, THAT HAS MORE
PEOPLE HAVE NEEDED IT OVER TIME.
WE HAVE NOT INCREASED THE
SUPPORT FOR IT.
AS A RESULT, ONLY 1 IN 10
STUDENTS IN PUBLIC COLLEGES OR
UNIVERSITIES ARE GETTING
SUPPORTED BY THE WORK STUDY
PROGRAM.
AND, UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN WE'VE
POINTED THAT OUT AND NOTED THAT
WORK STUDY IS IMMENSELY POPULAR,
IT ALIGNS WITH WHAT PEOPLE THINK
SHOULD HAPPEN, YOU SHOULD WORK
IN COLLEGE AND WORK ON CAMPUS.
INSTEAD OF THAT, THIS
ADMINISTRATION HAS ACTUALLY
TRIED TO GET RID OF THE WORK
STUDY PROGRAM, RATHER THAN TO
GROW IT TO MEET NEED.
>> ARE WE APPROACHING A SLIGHTLY
-- ARE WE OVERVALUING COLLEGE?
MEANING, IS COLLEGE RIGHT FOR
EVERYONE?
>> LOOK, I DON'T THINK TO SAY
THAT COLLEGE SHOULD BE
AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE FOR
EVERYONE IS TO SAY EVERYONE HAS
TO GO TO COLLEGE.
THOSE ARE TWO REALLY DIFFERENT
THINGS.
BUT I THINK THAT ONE OF THE
PROBLEMS WE HAVE, COLLEGE HAS
BECOME THE PLACE AMERICA LOVES
TO HATE, PARTLY BECAUSE AMERICA
THINKS THAT WHAT EVERYBODY'S
DOING IN COLLEGE IS PURSUING A
DEGREE OF SOME SORT THEY DON'T
FIND VALUABLE.
WHAT THEY DON'T SEEM TO REALIZEY
NOW SEEK ARE PERFORMED BY PEOPLE
WHO DO HAVE TO GET SOME SORT OF
VOCATIONAL OR TECHNICAL
TRAINING, AND THAT TRAINING IS
OFFERED IN COLLEGE.
COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY
ARE THE PLACES THAT PEOPLE WHO
DO ALL SORTS OF THINGS,
EVERYTHING FROM COSMETOLOGY TO
TRUCK DRIVER TRAINING, THEY DO
THESE THINGS IN COLLEGE.
THEY GO TO GET THEM.E PLACES
SO TO SAY THAT COLLEGE IS
UNAFFORDABLE IS NOT JUST TO SAY,
WELL, YOU CAN'T GET THAT
PHILOSOPHY DEGREE.
IT'S ALSO TO SAY YOU CAN'T GET
THE CREDENTIAL YOU NEED TO BE AN
AUTOMATIVE TECHNICIAN.
WHAT KIND OF SITUATION ARE WE
GOING TO BE IN WHEN WE SAY, NO,
LET'S CUT PEOPLE OFF FROM THOSE?
>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS FROM A
30,000-FOOT VIEW, I MEAN, HIGHER
EDUCATION WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE SOCIAL
MOBILITY, MOVE CLASS, RIGHT?
SO IT WAS -- COMMUNITY COLLEGE
INFRASTRUCTURE WAS SUPPOSED TO
BE THAT ALTERNATE PATH.
WHAT'S HAPPENED TO OUR IDEA OF
WHAT COLLEGE IS CAPABLE OF
DOING, ESPECIALLY AT A TIME
WHERE IT SEEMS THAT WE'RE ALL
SOCIALLY ASKING FOR THAT
CREDENTIAL?
>> YEAH, SO I THINK THAT THE
THEORY IS RIGHT. IDEA, THE
EDUCATION CAN DO ALL THE THINGS
YOU JUST DESCRIBED AND IT DID DO
IT IN THE 20th CENTURY.
MANY OF THE THINGS WE ALL ENJOY
TODAY, WHETHER IT'S OUR iPHONES
OR THE INNOVATIONS THAT WE HAVE
ON THE INTERNET, WERE CREATED BY
THE EXPANSION OF EDUCATION.
EDUCATION PROPELS INNOVATION,
BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE NEVER
REALLY ACTUALLY ALL AGREED TO
THIS AT THE POLICY LEVEL.
AND SO WHILE WE, SOME OF US SET
OUT TO MAKE POLICIES TO EXPAND
EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY IN
HIGHER EDUCATION, THE FACT IS
THAT STATES REALLY NEVER DID
JOIN IN A FULL WAY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IN MAKING COLLEGE
TRULY AFFORDABLE.
AND OVER TIME, DEPENDING ON THE
ADMINISTRATION IN CHARGE IN
WASHINGTON, THEY HAVE UNDERMINED
THE FINANCING BEHIND THE IDEA.
SO THE IDEA HAS STOOD, THE IDEA
HAS BEEN WIDELY HEARD BY THE
PUBLIC, WHICH HAS SAID, YES, WE
WANT COLLEGE, BUT WE DID NOT
BUILD AND SUSTAIN A FINANCING
SYSTEM TO ACTUALLY BACK UP THAT
IDEA.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE TASK OF
THE 21st CENTURY.
IT'S TIME TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
LIVE UP TO THE PROMISE, HOW TO
GET TOGETHER AND UNDERSTAND THAT
THIS IS NOT A MUSHY SOCIAL
JUSTICE ISSUE.
THIS IS AN ECONOMIC ISSUE.
WE'RE EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO
REBUILD A LOT OF SOCIAL PROGRAMS
TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GET
A JOB, ARE LIVING IN POVERTY,
ARE GOING TO HAVE HIGH MEDICAL
EXPENSES, GOING TO BE, QUOTE,
UNQUOTE, ON THE DOLE, OR WE CAN
GIVE THEM A VIABLE PATH TO
SELF-SUFFICIENCY, WHICH WE KNOW
RUNS THROUGH EDUCATION.
SEEMS LIKE THE LATTER IS
PROBABLY THE MORE COST EFFECTIVE
THING TO DO AND IT'S WHAT EACH
INDIVIDUAL PERSON IS CHOOSING
FOR THEIR CHILDREN.
THE QUESTION RIGHT NOW IS WHAT
THEY'RE GOING TO CHOOSE FOR
OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN.
>> THANKS FOR JOINING US.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
